Finding The Right Posture For Health With Dr. Michael Robinson

Today’s guest is a true expert in the field of stress and a career-long dentist!

Dr. Michael Robinson comes on the show to share how he’s used NuCalm to drastically change his personal life and practice.

Dr. Robinson also shares some serious tips on better breathing, posture, and bite in optimal health as well as how to cope with stress as a small business owner.

 

“People get a diagnosis of ADD or ADHD and really what they need is a good night’s sleep! And they need to get good air. Many times I’m disappointed when I see that doctors have put these kids on some medicines. Every drug has side effects and I would rather them have no drugs at all. The best is our natural air.”

— Dr. Michael Robinson

 

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Dr. Robinson is a physician of the full mouth. He informs patients about what they can do to reach optimal form and function, whether that includes physiologic or cosmetic dentistry. Dr. Robinson’s commitment to education with unique patient care supports his belief that people want more than just a nice smile. They want to feel better as well. They want to feel younger, healthy, and more confident knowing that their dental team is on their side.

You can find out more about Dr. Michael Robinson on his website.



Key Takeaways

[1:00] David welcomes Dr. Michael Robinson and invites him to explain how he came into dentistry and what eventually led him to become a stress management expert.

 

[4:06] Mother Nature gets it right when we’re born, Dr. Robinson speaks to what happens to our bodies when our environment exercises pressures on us.

 

[9:00] Breathing is key for Dr. Michael; he shares some interesting facts about nose breathing and the calming chemical it releases — LSD everybody!

 

[15:30] The biting on pencils example! Dr. Michael talks about face shapes and the unconscious postures we may take that are detrimental to performance as well as the work an LVI dentist can do to help correct these.

 

[21:27] Dr. Robinson the stress expert shares how he sees stress manifest in patients and how he makes a point to ask them how they are — he also makes a point to talk about how NuCalm has helped his practice tremendously.

 

[25:00] Though he looks like he has it all together now, Dr. Robinson really didn’t, he opens up about how NuCalm has changed his personal life.

 

[28:38] How has NuCalm made Dr. Robinson’s dental practice better and easier? From helping with hangovers to travel, Dr. Robinson shares his more creative uses of the device!

 

[31:28] Audience questions start pouring in with Q1: is there a device recommended to keep sleeping mouths closed instead of tape?

 

[33:20] Q2: What is Dr. Robinson’s take on nasal septum straightening?

 

[33:30] Q3: Dr. Robinson shares the kind of tape he uses.

 

[36:47] Q4: What does Dr. Robinson recommend for people who have Ramsay-Hunt syndrome and does he use sleep orthopedics?

 

[38:33] Q5: What should people do about having a mouth full of mercury fillings?

 

[41:00] Dr. Robinson shares his thoughts on the future of dentistry.

 

[42:30] Q5: What is your favorite time of day to NuCalm?

 

[43:55] Q6: On Dr. Jerry Tennant and the book Jaws: The Hidden Epidemic.

 

[48:08] Q7: Will dental fillings be replaced with something else soon?

 

[49:47] Q8: What is Dr. Robinson’s recommended at-home oral care routine?

 

[50:35] Q9: How to find the right dentist and does bite affect posture?

 

[52:52] Q10: Don’t the adenoids and tonsils serve a purpose? Why remove them?

 

[54:33] David thanks Dr. Robinson for his wonderful insight and signs off until next episode.

 

Continue on your journey and until next time, breathe deep, relax, and keep looking forward.

 

Mentioned in this episode

Patrick McKeown

LVI

Dr. Jerry Tennant

 

Close Your Mouth: Buteyko Clinic Handbook for Perfect Health, by Patrick McKeown

The Oxygen Advantage: The Simple, Scientifically Proven Breathing Techniques to Help You Become Healthier, Slimmer, Faster, and Fitter, by Patrick McKeown

Jaws: The Story of a Hidden Epidemic, by Paul R. Ehrlich and Sandra Kahn

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Full Transcript

 

David Poole
Tonight we’ve got a true expert in the field of stress, although that’s not what his degree says. That’s not what he signed up for, but he is a career-long dentist. He does some exceptional different types of dentistry, which I think we’ll get into tonight. I’m going to find very interesting. His name is Dr. Michael Robinson. He’s up in Ontario, Canada. We’ve known Michael for well over five years.

David Poole
Tonight with Dr. Robinson, I want to focus on the stress of being a small business owner, the stress of working on patients who may or may not be struggling to cope with the treatment they’re getting or expect to get, and then now a little bit about the stress of being a small business owner and not being able to operate his business, and then also really focus on what he does, how they do it, some of the excellence in care they provide, and then his own personal journey with NuCalm, both as a personal user and with his patients.

David Poole
I think we’ll share some pretty cool anecdotes about how he’s been able to provide an exceptionally positive experience with people who otherwise really struggled with the concept of dental care. As everyone knows on this call, we’ve had a long history in the dental business over 10 years. With that, welcome to the evening call tonight, Dr. Robinson. Why don’t we get started with tell us a little bit about your background and how you got into dentistry as a chosen field?

Dr. Michael Robinson
I shall do. Well, thank you for having me on this chat. Nice to see all these beautiful faces from around your country. I don’t know if any Canadians are part of that group, but doesn’t matter. I love America. It’s where I tend to go to train. So speaking of dentistry, I’ve been a practicing general practice dentist for 32, 33 years now and enjoy it very much. It’s a business that you can do that definitely touches a lot of people’s lives, provides a good income when you can work.

Dr. Michael Robinson
But my focus in dentistry has really changed in the last probably eight to 10 years with my introduction to LVI, which David already made mention of. Dentistry’s an interesting business. We work in a very personal, close space with people, so I have an opportunity to feel a lot of energy out of people. You can appreciate that going to a dentist isn’t necessarily the happiest thing for most people to do, but realize that it’s a necessary thing.

Dr. Michael Robinson
My focus with dentistry has changed a lot from just coming out of dental school we are well-trained in a very small area. I call us very good molar mechanics at the time of graduating. We tend to focus on that. We have very poor business skills when we come out of dental school, so that can add an element of stress. That’s been part of my journey to learn that. NuCalm has helped that definitely in the last little while. But coming out of school with a focus that’s very minute, which is teeth, is okay.

Dr. Michael Robinson
But the training that I’m now doing is focusing more on the whole body and the connection of the body to the teeth and the body to your posture and your bite to your posture. So another way of looking at that is to think that Mother Nature … This is going to sound kind of strange. But Mother Nature gets it right when we’re born. We’re all born quite beautiful. I’m looking at my daughter. She’s one of those. But what happens over time is that all Mother Nature can do is react to its environment. That’s the way our body goes.

Dr. Michael Robinson
So our environment is changing a lot. I personally don’t think that we respect this enough. For example, the basics of life are eat well, sleep well, exercise well, and be spiritually connected to something. Be communicative. These kind of things, our society, we tend to break down on these. So I’m at the practitioner end of this equation, and I get to see the ill effects of us not respecting what Mother Nature really wants us to do, so whether it’s poor oral hygiene, that’s pretty simple to deal with.

Dr. Michael Robinson
That’s why I have a well-trained hygiene team. But more importantly is what’s been fun for me is the stresses that we put on the body, such as not eating properly and the body reacts to that, not breathing properly, the body reacts to that. I can chat a little bit more if someone’s interested in learning about this breathing because when Mother Nature reacts to a poor environment, then we actually have a breakdown in the system. So in the mouth, our gums break down.

Dr. Michael Robinson

With what I’m really interested now is when we don’t breathe properly and we open our mouth and [inaudible 00:05:28] because of allergy issues. We can’t breathe through our nose. We drop our tongue, and then the whole craniofacial skeleton collapses. You’ll probably find it quite interesting that there’s a lot of people nowadays … If you look at the number of kids that require orthodontic care, I’m 60 years old. I may not look like it. I know. Thank you. But it’s shocking the number of kids that have small, crowded faces.

Dr. Michael Robinson
That’s just because Mother Nature has reacted to a poor environment. When the children are allergic to something, milk tends to be one of the major things. Our diets aren’t as good. The foods that we eat are highly processed, so the body reacts by swelling, like adenoids and tonsils swell. So little Johnny going to bed has to open his mouth, and the face collapses. And then the whole dental complex breaks down. And then when the dental complex or the facial skeletal complex breaks down, then the jaw retrudes.

Dr. Michael Robinson
So that leads to these symptoms, what you people have probably heard about TMJ problems, TMD, very serious stresses on the body and very complicated, fun, but complicated to treat. My training through LVI allows me to treat that. But what’s really, I think, our duty in life is just, in mine I take it quite passionately now at my office with my whole team, is that we want to work with young mothers to make sure that they’re doing the right thing, and fathers, young parents, make sure that the children are respecting what Mother Nature needs, good diet, a diverse diet, good breathing, good exercise.

Dr. Michael Robinson
And then the social stuff, I’ll let other people get into that. This is what’s been really fun about dentistry for me now. I’m a 60-year-old guy who’s probably been way more passionate about my career choice now in the last number of years because I really cannot become a … I’ve grown out of the more mechanic phase of life. I’m now sort of a physician of the mouth. I was chatting with someone yesterday and said, “How is dentistry different?” Well, it’s funny. From the moment a patient walks in the room now, I don’t just look at teeth.

Dr. Michael Robinson
I actually look at the way they walk into the room and know that I can have an effect on them by talking about those things that we just talked about, sleeping, breathing, eating properly, exercise and that. And then I can get to the mouth and I’ll have a better idea. I’ll see things broken down because Mother Nature has broken things down in the mouth. And then I can help bring them back together again. So that’s been the biggest change in dentistry and makes it fun for me in the rest of my career.

Dr. Michael Robinson
It’d be nice if our government and the whole world gets healthy again and gets this whole damn virus thing figured out, that we can get back to work. But even this virus itself gets us thinking about doing the right thing because right now Mother Nature has thrown a curve ball at it. I’m not totally pleased with the reaction of where we’re going with it, but I do believe that all kinds of good’s going to come out of this. We’re going to start realizing that we need to respect sleep, health, diet.

Dr. Michael Robinson
We definitely need to be doing this for our elders as well because they’re the ones that are the most affected by this, and we’re not looking out for them well enough, in my opinion. So I know that good’s going to come out of this, and then I’ll eventually be able to get back to work and start fixing up some people.

David Poole
So Michael, can you talk for a minute about the breathing. When you mentioned that, that makes me very curious. I mean a lot of people probably on this call even in the biohacking community are into Wim Hof and understand how valuable breathing can be and even try breathing exercise. But what are you talking about specifically? What are you looking for, and how do you make adjustments?

Dr. Michael Robinson
Oh good. Well, I don’t think there couldn’t be a better time for us to be focusing on breathing than right now. This virus that’s out there is an airborne droplet problem. We breathe, and that’s why everyone’s wearing masks and respecting distances. Breathing is a gift that our body has. You can get air a couple ways. You can either breathe it in through your nose or get it in through your mouth. Most people don’t realize that the nose is, by far, the best way to get air because the design of the nose is such that you warm your air.

Dr. Michael Robinson
You filter the air. You moisten the air. Most people understand that. But most importantly, breathing in through your nose produces a chemical in your paranasal sinuses called nitric oxide. That drug that our body produces for free is an amazing chemical because it has all kinds of things. Well, first off, you guys are all NuCalm users. Nitric Oxide has parasympathetic abilities. So it is a calming drug for our body. It has antiviral … That’s a big thing in our world right now, isn’t it?

Dr. Michael Robinson
It has antibacterial qualities. It has vasodilation, which means opening the blood vessels which is good for the heart, good for calming as well. So breathing is a big deal. If we can’t use our nose, then we open our mouth. Things that I can do when I have a patient come in is just look at their face. You can often tell someone who’s not a nasal breather. They have a small narrow nose or nares, that’s the openings. That’s classic. So it gives me an opportunity to talk to them about it.

Dr. Michael Robinson
Now, here’s where I’m going to put a Canadian plug in. I am a passionate Canadian guy and I love my hockey. So if you think of the Toronto Maple Leafs and their star player, Auston Matthews, look at his nose. It’s unbelievable. He’s got these big huge things. Anyway, that’s one of the things about breathing is that focus on good, slow, smooth, calm breathing through your nose and not your mouth, and you’ll be surprised that you will feel better. If you’re interested more on this nasal breathing stuff, the world authority on this is a fellow by the name of Patrick McKeown from Ireland.

Dr. Michael Robinson
There’s some very good books that you might want to pick up. One of them’s a small paperback called Close Your Mouth. He has training exercises in there for you. I highly recommend everyone learn these and share this with those that you love because nasal breathing is just a simple gift that we have to help us stay healthier. For those that find it difficult to breathe through their nose, they can train their nose to get to be more of a nasal breather. You’ll be surprised that this does work over a few-month period. You can become a healthier and a better nasal breather.

Dr. Michael Robinson
At nighttime, most people say, “I open my mouth and the games are off.” Every single night, I kid you not, I tape my mouth. I want this thing to work. It may sound crazy, but I recommend it. I give all my patients a roll of tape. If you’re interested more about this, get a hold through Erica. I can send you articles on this. But it’s really healthy stuff. Now, if you can’t breathe through your nose because there’s an obstruction in the way, that’s where a guy like me might be a first contact to say, “Look, this should get dealt with. Go and see an ear, nose, and throat doctor.”

Dr. Michael Robinson
You may have an obstruction in your nose. You may have an obstruction with adenoids or tonsils. Those can be dealt with, especially children. If you have children that aren’t breathing well, aren’t sleeping well, watch them sleep. You’ll probably find their mouth is open. And then if you look at the back of the mouth, you’re probably going to see big golf ball things. The problem, what’s happening in society is these kids that aren’t breathing well and aren’t sleeping well are usually poorly misdiagnosed as they go to school and they’re hyperactive.

Dr. Michael Robinson
They’re diagnosed as ADD or ADHD. Really, they need to get a good night’s sleep and they need to get good air. Many times I’m disappointed when I see that doctors have put these kids on some medicines that … Every drug has a side effect. I would rather them have no drugs at all. The best drug is our natural air and life itself, if that helps you, David, on that explanation. Nasal breathing is key. You can even look at a face to see if you think someone’s doing it. If they aren’t, then do whatever it takes to get the nose working.

David Poole
Just to clarify, do inhale and exhale through your nose?

Dr. Michael Robinson
Good point. Excellent. Absolutely. You want to inhale. It’s slow. The acronym that they use in the sleep world is LSD, long, slow, deep breaths in through your nose and long, slow, deep breaths out through your nose. The reason for that is when you breathe out through your nose, it actually keeps more carbon dioxide in the body, which is good because there’s a chemistry experiment going on inside your blood. The more carbon dioxide you have in your blood, the easier it is to use oxygen.

Dr. Michael Robinson
For example, think about when you were a kid. You might have done something stupid like, “Hey, let’s put our head in a bag and hyperventilate.” You got dizzy. The reason you got dizzy is because you’ve expelled too much CO2. So breathing should be … It’s a simple gift that we have to help calm ourself. Long, slow, deep, quiet breaths, that is as healthy as you can get. In through your nose and out through your nose, absolutely.

David Poole
Excellent. I didn’t expect to get good breathing tips, but I appreciate that. I will try and use them.

Dr. Michael Robinson

Anyway, that book, Patrick McKeown, he also has another book called The Oxygen Advantage. Really good books for anybody in life just to learn a little bit more about breathing. I think it’s one of those simple things that we can do to help ourselves, especially even in these times that are stressful. Breathing is another trick that we can use to calm ourselves as well as your product, which is fantastic.

David Poole
So can we talk for a minute? Remember the phenomenon when we were with Alex Tuch out at LVI and you had him do a strength test. And then you had him bite on a pencil. I know it’s really popular for a lot of athletes to use these guards, bite guards. It’s to increase oxygen. But what’s the phenomenon? What are you looking for? How do you help? What can we do as we [inaudible 00:16:36]?

Dr. Michael Robinson
Well, that’s interesting. So let’s go back to my original thing when I said that all the body can do is respond. We know that 80% of the population has a breakdown of their craniofacial skeleton. So what does that mean? They’re narrow faces. For example, you can look at a lot of movie stars. Let’s look at our Canadian, Justin Bieber. Everyone thinks he’s a really … He’s done so well in music, but look at his face. It’s narrow. It’s retruded. If you look at his profile from the side, he has a bigger nose because he has a narrow, retruded face.

Dr. Michael Robinson
Now, how did that happen? I’ll bet he was a mouth breather. So let’s go to a professional athlete like I met down in Las Vegas, this Tuch fellow. If you have a retruded jaw, you may have compression going on in this joint complex. So athletes, many times, and they’ve been living with this compression. They don’t even know that it’s affecting their performance. But it’s an interesting test that I can do on 80% of the people. You guys can try this at home, but I’ll explain the theory behind it.

Dr. Michael Robinson
A lot of times in a sport, we bring our jaw together to brace ourselves. It’s part of the psychological get-readiness for impact or performance or a goal. When you bring your teeth together, they’re like a precise set of 28 gears in a truck or a car. When they come together, they put your jaw joint in a certain position. If the craniofacial skeleton is narrowed and collapsed or retruded, like I’m saying 80% of the population is, then they’re actually compressing this joint when they prepare for sport or activity.

Dr. Michael Robinson
The little test I did on this athlete is I had him stand, feet together, hands together in front like this. I went to push on him and tip him over. He clenched and I could tip him over. And then I stuck a pen or pencil in his mouth. All that does, this is not an orthopedic, but this is just a device that moved his jaw forward and decompressed this joint. He was freaked out on how much stronger and better balanced he was. The reason for that is when you compress this joint, probably the most important nerve in our body runs through that. That’s called the trigeminal nerve.

Dr. Michael Robinson
Most of you people have probably heard of this nerve. The trigeminal nerve is the most important nerve because it goes to the organs that you and I need to do first, which is breathe and eat. That’s to stay survival. So the largest part of our brain is devoted to this trigeminal nerve. If it is getting compressed during this simple little exercise of me trying to tip you over and you bracing, if I decompress the joint and free up any potential problems with the nerve … Everyone should try this on themselves.

Dr. Michael Robinson
That’s what happened, David, when I did it on him. I can probably do this on 80% of the people and they’ll all go, “Wow.” So that’s why it’s important for athletes to see a guy like me or a physiologic dentist that understands that an orthopedic mouth guard, not your basic boil and bite or the kind that most dentists make where we take a mold. These mouth guards literally have a bite built into them that’s a little bit advanced. Your jaw’s a little bit forward. And then you’re respecting that joint and all of the comings of it.

Dr. Michael Robinson
That’s what that little magic … It sounds like magic, and he was … You’ll probably see that many professional athletes, if you really look closely, they are starting to wear orthopedic mouth guards. It’s just a little bit of an edge we can give them.

David Poole
Yeah, I was there. It was magic to me. Alex was stunned. He’s not a small guy. He’s 6’4″, 220, and you were pushing him around like a rag doll. So what can we do in the same place to do something like that? Not a boil and bite, but is there an orthopedic we can get off the shelf or order online? Or do we have to go see a dentist?

Dr. Michael Robinson
I would say you probably should look up an LVI-trained dentist. Google it. The reason for that is because most dentists, I’m going to use this saying, most doctors, most physicians, most, most people, they don’t know what they don’t know, and they’re not trained in this kind of stuff. They don’t even know how to make it. It’s not like it’s a difficult thing to make. But there are a number. You’re lucky. In the United States, you have a lot of fantastically trained LVI dentists.

Dr. Michael Robinson
You can find one in your neighborhood, I’m sure of it. So that’s something you could do. The company, Under Armour, is one. Everyone hears of that company. It’s very popular right now. I don’t think they make one of these, I call them, orthopedic mouth guards. But try the test on yourself. Some of these people on this forum right now may wear a mouth guard. Just try this little test. Stand up, one arm out to the side. Keep your feet tucked close together, clenched tight, one arm out to the side. Get someone to tip you over. Put your mouth guard in. Get someone to tip you over.

Dr. Michael Robinson
Take it out. Put a pen in that just moves your jaw and braces it a little more forward. You might be surprised that that pen makes you a stronger person. It’s not like you’re always clenching when you’re doing an activity, but many times in most sports we do have a bracing moment, so if that helps you.

David Poole
Thanks. Let’s transition over to stress for a minute. In our advertisement for tonight’s call, we called you an expert in stress. Spending a lot of time in dental practices and having dear friends in the dental space, you are truly an expert on stress. So what are you looking for in the body and emotion? What are the tells of someone that you know is having a real struggle coping and is very stressed out and you can see them right in the waiting room? What are you looking for in those patients?

Dr. Michael Robinson
Wow. That’s a loaded question. It’s a good one. It’s hard to tell if someone’s stressed. I think all of us know that. Some people are very good at hiding the stress inside of them. I’m very fortunate because I’m in a medical profession where by the time … Well, not necessarily the first appointment, but we work very hard on trying to build trust in our patients. So when a patient gets to know you, they start to open up a little bit more. I have an uncanny ability to … because it fuels me.

Dr. Michael Robinson
It is one of my passions of life, if I can get to know a person and find out what’s making them tick. We all know that everyone has a lot of stress, in fact, right now even more. Doesn’t matter what job you’re in. My job’s as stressful as anyone in this forum that I’m looking at today. We all have our moments. First, finding it out, do you have stress? I’m getting real good at asking patients, “How are you doing? What’s going on?” It’s a funny thing. Here’s a dentist asking that question.

Dr. Michael Robinson
The moment you walk into a dental office, behind me I have a needle in my hand I’m about to stick in your mouth. I’m about to do a procedure that could elicit pain. So stress is in my environment, period. Stress is in everyone’s personality as well. Some people are way better at doing it. This is where the NuCalm has been brilliant, brilliant. I can’t overemphasize. It literally gets used every day to help. I’ve been using NuCalm in the practice for coming up three years.

Dr. Michael Robinson
Every hygiene patient, they just go, “Can you hook me up with that stuff again, give me those headphones and let me listen to that cool music?” Here’s a little plug. I actually really do like the new neural patch because it was a little more complicated for my team just to explain what this electronic thing was going on. So the patch on the hand, the neural patch is really nice. But we offer our NuCalm to all our patients because we’re in a stressful environment. But it’s also because I like people, and I have a product that can help them.

Dr. Michael Robinson
We don’t charge for this, which is crazy. I know many dentists do. But it’s a bit of a practice builder. I’m building patients on them just knowing that we offer this product at the office. Everyone says, “Wow, I feel good.” In fact, some of these patients, it’s amazing. In 20 minutes, they fall asleep. That’s weird. In a dental office, someone falling asleep is pretty bizarre. So that’s how my connection with stress is. I get to work in a very personal space. We work within 16 to 18 inches.

Dr. Michael Robinson
That’s someone’s personal space. You can feel energy when you’re in that kind of space. So stress is definitely there because of our environment, but also just because of it’s in life. For new patients, we talk about it. But for regular patients, they all want it, which is nice.

David Poole
Can you talk a little bit, Michael, about your personal use of NuCalm and when you realized it could be really valuable too and how you habituated it?

Dr. Michael Robinson
Yeah, definitely. I may come across as a guy that’s got it all together. I don’t always, and I certainly didn’t. My passion for becoming this kind of physiologic dentist and going to LVI … This is a Canadian flying down to Las Vegas four to six times a year. Our dollar sucks. There’s one thing. That’s stress. So just do the math on this thing. This is a guy who’s going down to … For me to try to take upon this level of knowledge was unbelievably stressful, and then to bring it back and trying to implement it with my team.

Dr. Michael Robinson
Life itself was catching up with me. I was really stressed a few years ago. At LVI, they were using NuCalm on their patients and using it because they realized that you can help a person heal when you de-stress them, period. So that’s why LVI had adopted NuCalm a bunch of years ago. I got introduced to it down there, and I got thinking, “Holy cow. This is a pretty simple … It almost seems too good to be true.” But they let me use it down there, obviously, when I’m on course.

Dr. Michael Robinson
But I thought, “I’m just going to bite the bullet and buy two of these units.” I bought one for me and one for the office. I can tell you, it sounds like a cheap infomercial here. I have never looked back. I literally NuCalm every day. I have equipment in my office that measures blood pressure. It’s crazy. I can do some of these things you guys talk about on your studies. Some of my physical parameters, they’re better. So NuCalm has helped me with my stress of life, of business.

Dr. Michael Robinson
All businesses have their moments. Running a dental office that runs at a 75 to 80% overhead, managing or being a leader of six women, love them to death, but they can be complicated. That has its stress. NuCalm, it’s a little quick thing I can do or if I have an opportunity to throw 20 minutes into my afternoon, I will. It’s a no-brainer. So you people, you’re probably new with the product. I’m pretty sure you’re going to find it really neat for yourself.

Dr. Michael Robinson
I’m really excited with Erica’s given me a little bit of insight that you guys are trying to make this product a little different for the average public. I think if it’s accessible to more people, you’ll be able to help more people. Everyone has loved ones. Every one of my team is using NuCalm. I have one unit. This is something I shared with David. I have one unit in the office that we bought specifically to give to certain people that we know that are really going through hardship, whether they’re in cancer treatment or I had a patient this last fall that he just finished building his dream home and it burned down.

Dr. Michael Robinson
They had other family members that had died through age and through one tragic accident. I gave him the NuCalm unit for a couple months. Anyway, really liked it. Don’t just keep your unit to yourself, people. Share it. You’re going to make some happier people.

David Poole
How has NuCalm made your dentistry easier?

Dr. Michael Robinson
In hygiene, it’s interesting that hygiene patients, they’re calmer. I’m in a business. I need to sell product. It’s not a bad word. I’m proud of it. I can do great dentistry, but I can sell great dentistry too. If someone is calmer, they’re more apt to listen to the pros and cons, and then they can accept it. So right off the bat, NuCalm is a product they know that I have in the office. When we have consultations, if patients want to come in, some of them NuCalm first. And then we just sit and talk.

Dr. Michael Robinson
But a calmer patient is easier to work on. That’s for sure. It’s different. I can’t have as much three-way conversation with myself, my assistant, and my patient. I’m getting this dirty look from my assistant, “Hey, he’s NuCalming. Shut up.” But they are calmer. It just makes the whole thing flow better, and that I really appreciate.

David Poole
So you introduced the night you’re drinking a beer. Have you used NuCalm to resolve hangovers?

Dr. Michael Robinson
There’s a fun one. Absolutely. 100%. Another interesting thing that I use NuCalm for is travel. This has been a really neat one because I do travel to the US. The time difference for me to LVI is three hours. It’s just brilliant how it helps mess with that time zone. I know the science behind it because I’m a bit of a geek that way, the whole circadian. It helps to reset it or reboot it. It works, black and white. Just where I live, I have a lot of patients that work for Air Canada, one of our big air carriers.

Dr. Michael Robinson
I got a few of the pilots that I let them just take the extra unit and say, “Look, you fly to China, wherever you go.” I’ve got one, his regular route is China, not right now, obviously. But another one, his regular route is Switzerland. They just can’t believe how it does help that time zone thing. You would know. You could probably explain to the group a little bit better. But definitely use this product when you travel. It helps a bunch.

Dr. Michael Robinson
Not that you should be drinking beer all the time, but when you do and you have maybe too many, it helps in the morning or throughout the day.

David Poole
Listen, we’ve been around a lot of dentists. I’ve been to LVI many times. I’m always impressed at how deep in the night dentists go and they’re up and ready to go at 7:00 a.m., pretty impressive.

David Poole
All right. So that’s excellent. Let’s wrap it up. We’ve got some questions here for you, Michael, from the group. We’ve got one from Steven and the question is, “Is there an appliance that you would recommend for keeping your mouth closed instead of tape?”

Dr. Michael Robinson
To keep your mouth closed, beside of tape?

David Poole
Yeah, instead of tape.

Dr. Michael Robinson
No. No. A lot of people have breathing issues, sleep issues as well. For example, snoring is a … We laugh at it, but it’s a serious issue. So if anyone here is a snorer or you know someone that’s snoring, get them with an oral appliance that supports the jaw. Because most snoring is the tongue falling back into the airway, so you need to advance the jaw forward. Now, okay, I’ll add to that. Yes, you could use lots of training. But a lot of people have weak lips.

Dr. Michael Robinson
Orbicularis muscle is often very weak, especially in people that are mouth breathers. People that are nasal breathers tend to have a tighter muscle. So go on YouTube and learn about lip-strengthening exercises and tongue-strengthening exercises. There’s all kinds of them. But when you strengthen the muscles, they are more apt to rest in where they’re designed to, which is mouth closed, lips closed, tongue to the top of the roof. But I am now using tape as an … I just am comfortable using it now, and my nose works very well.

Dr. Michael Robinson
I can’t tape my mouth when I have a cold, but I’m kind of lucky. I don’t get many colds anymore because I’m exercising. I’m sleeping well. I’m eating well. I’m doing the things that we probably should be doing. But right now, tape is a simple thing. But strengthening the oral facial complex is a good one. So myofunctional therapy it’s called, but you can just go online and learn. There are some fun exercises you can do. It’s even better with your partner. Hope that helped.

David Poole
Yeah, no. That’s excellent. From Lena, “What do you think in general about straightening nasal septum? Does the risk of empty nose syndrome, is it worth it?”

Dr. Michael Robinson
Now, if the nasal septum, if you’re straightening it for aesthetics, that’s another thing. But if you’re straightening it because you’re not getting good air, I know many people that have had it done. It’s not a comfortable surgery but, if it’s done properly, it can help the proper flow of oxygen and air through your nose. So no, I’m for it, definitely. Breathing, it’s key. Everyone should be breathing through your nose all the time. Always breathing through your nose unless talking.

Dr. Michael Robinson
You’ll find the days that you talk a lot, you’re probably quite tired. That’s just because you haven’t been using your nose, and your body’s not as healthy as it could be. The days when I come home from work and I’ve done a lot of education with patients, I’m tired. My wife sometimes wonders why I’m quiet when I come home. Because I want this baby working.

David Poole
And then you tape your mouth shut. So yeah, she’s probably very curious. We’ve got a question from Philip, “Do you recommend mouth tape products when sleeping?” That’s redundant. What kind of tape products do you use, I guess?

Dr. Michael Robinson
It’s a 3M micropore two-inch, I think it is. If you contact Erica and you want to know more about that, I could put together a little bit of a cheat sheet for you with some of these products and that kind of thing. Sorry. To go back to someone we were talking about this oral appliances for sleeping, be very careful about those as well. Make sure that they are physiologically designed, not just your basic thing. The reason for that is most products that dentists are making have material on the inside, where I don’t.

Dr. Michael Robinson
The products that we make are designed to fit. The retention is designed from the outside of the teeth, not the inside. The moment you make the mouth smaller, think about it, you’ve just made the garage smaller. Your truck, which is your tongue, has less room to hang out in. If you make the garage smaller, the car goes in reverse and that further affects breathing. So for a sports appliance, it’s not as much of a factor, but for sleeping, you want the tongue on the roof of the mouth and forward.

Dr. Michael Robinson
You don’t want to make any of that stuff smaller. So there’s a lot to this. I hope I’m not confusing people by this. Respect what Mother Nature did, which is to create … If you look at really beautiful faces, they’re forward. They’re big. They have good jaw structure. Just look at some of the tribes that are in … They’ve found some of these tribes in India. They’re not exposed to all industrialization and all the poor foods. These people have beautiful faces. They have very little disease. They don’t have viruses.

Dr. Michael Robinson
They sleep well. They breathe well. It’s just common sense is what we need to go back to. Everything needs to revolve around that.

David Poole
You think they’re sheltering in place in those tribes or they don’t even know there’s a problem?

Dr. Michael Robinson
Sorry?

David Poole
I said do you think they’re sheltering in place in those tribes or they’re unaware that we’re in a pandemic?

Dr. Michael Robinson
I know. Yes.

David Poole
Another question from Lena, “Do you wear orthopedic mouth guard at night? What would you recommend to people with Ramsay Hunt syndrome after shingles in the ear? Muscles on one side of the face are dead and another side is extremely tense.”

Dr. Michael Robinson
Yeah. Again, stress is the common denominator here. So first off, nighttime, do I wear a … I wear an orthopedically-designed sleep appliance that holds my jaw forward and it respects the airway. So that’s what I do. I also tape my mouth. It seems strange, but I get way better sleep. I measure my sleep because I have equipment that I can measure, very similar things to what they do at a hospital. So that’s that one question answered. The other one is shingles and these kind of things, these are diseases that affect nerves in the body, stress of the nerve.

Dr. Michael Robinson
Things that are used in my world are called TENS unit. Anything that delivers calmness to or proper health to a muscle can help rejuvenate some of these things. So there are some very specifically-designed TENS units that helps people with shingle-like issues, also can help people with Bell’s palsy. Laser therapy, and I don’t know enough about it, but there are some very good work on lasers that help people with the ill effects of shingles and palsy-like symptoms or trigeminal neuralgia.

Dr. Michael Robinson
I use a TENS unit. It’s not DR-HO that you’ll hear. TENS stands for transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation. There are some very specifically-designed TENS units that helps the musculature after a palsy or a shingles type thing. I hope that helps a bit.

David Poole
Michael, what should people do about mercury fillings? I’ve got a mouthful of them. When I first saw Omer, he looked at me and said, “Get those out immediately.” That was eight years ago.

Dr. Michael Robinson
That’s very controversial. Most people know that mercury is not a great thing to be putting into your body. It was used because it was simple material to amalgamate with the metals that we used in silver fillings. There’s no reason for you to be putting that in your body now. Mercury fillings, the ill effects of them, you could extrapolate and say that mercury’s going to cause you neurological issues. I’m 60 years old, been practicing for 33, well, even more in dental school.

Dr. Michael Robinson
I think I’m pretty stable and I’ve been spending my life pulling mercury fillings out of … I’ve had my blood tested for mercury. I don’t have it. So I’m not too worried about mercury causing you issues via blood. But you might get some people that are real holistically, they might argue that. But I’m a practicing wet-footed dentist, so that’s one issue. One of the major things about mercury fillings, think of a thermometer. Mercury rises and lowers. Mercury fillings expand and contract more than our dental materials, modern ones.

Dr. Michael Robinson
They’re not bonded to your teeth. They’re just stuck in there. So they tend to crack teeth. So that might be a reason for removing them because your teeth are going to show lots of stress cracks in them. When you have mercury fillings taken out, just have it done in an environment that really upload your vitamin C because that might bind any potential vapors. Have it done in a situation where they’re using a high-volume suction and rubber dam. There’s some tricks we use in dentistry just to make it …

Dr. Michael Robinson
Do you need to take them out? I don’t know. David, you seem pretty stable to me. I don’t think it’s messed with you too much. But it’s a controversial thing. I don’t use them ever anymore. There’s much better materials that provide great strength, health, aesthetics, so that’s the way to go. But I don’t know. If I had a mouthful of them, if I were a neurological disorder patient, I would consider it. I have had a few of those over the years. Has it made them better? No. But I’d try anything if I was diagnosed with some of the diseases or some of the neurological issues. So I hope that helps you a bit.

David Poole
That’s excellent. So let’s wrap up with what are you excited about for the future of dentistry? What gets you really jazzed up about the next 10 years of practicing?

Dr. Michael Robinson
Good. I’m glad you’re asking that and not the negative side effect because corporate dentistry is not going to be good for patients, period. It’s a business. They’re going to want bottom line, and the patient’s going to lose. What I’m excited about for dentistry is I’m hoping there are more people like … I’m at the end of my career. I’m going to be going for another five, 10 years, but I’m excited for the young dentists that are passionate about really making a difference and doing the right thing.

Dr. Michael Robinson
We have so much knowledge. This place where I go to learn, LVI is definitely … I really think every dentist should be finishing dental school and then going and doing some of the courses there just to make sure they become a physician of the mouth, not a molar mechanic. This is a great time to be practicing dentistry, aside from this virus thing that’s going on. But there’s just so much advancements in material science and just science in general. NuCalm is a great thing.

Dr. Michael Robinson
Dentistry, just the word elicits stress in people. So NuCalm’s a great product that every dentist should be … It just should be a standard thing that everyone should be using. It’s just like they use freezing, they should be using NuCalm. So we have a whole bunch of good things going on in our business.

David Poole
Got a couple more questions for you, Michael. We’re not done yet. Alison Hobbs has a question, “Just curious, what is your favorite time of day to NuCalm?”

Dr. Michael Robinson
I have adopted the morning to do this. I go to bed at a good time, usually around 8:00, 8:30. I get up at around 4:30 to 5:00, and I NuCalm then. That’s worked well for me. On weekends, I NuCalm typically if I can pull myself 20, 30 minutes. It just finds it really charges me up for … gives me a little bit of energy there. I really wish I were doing it in my practice midday, but the way I work four days a week. We work busy during the four days. But it would be nice if I could do a 20-minute session.

Dr. Michael Robinson
I’ve been involved with NuCalm for quite a few years now. These 20-minute tracks, there’s some crazy stuff going on in them that really … I know my body well. You guys are lucky you’re coming into a time where NuCalm is even more advance than it was before and simpler and quicker. Get to know your own lifestyle. But if you can throw a 30-minute session into your day, I guarantee you. Everyone’s different. Mine tends to be the morning. It just works out because then when I come home, I can go for a good workout and a bike ride. It’s not practical for me to just lie in a bed and zone out then.

David Poole
We have a question from Brent, “Can you ask the doc if he knows Dr. Jerry Tennant or know of his work?”

Dr. Michael Robinson
I don’t. I’m sorry, no. I’m not that famous that I know everybody. I do put in a big plug for my Bill Dickerson, the founder of LVI. But I think if you were to research a current LVI dentist, you’re going to find someone that knows way more about health than a lot of people because I think a lot of dentists out there just don’t know what they don’t know. The dental school teaching is still prehistorical, every single school out there. You need to go to a more advanced facility. I hope I didn’t put down your dentist.

Brent
What I was saying was Dr. Jerry Tennant has a very interesting perspective on dentistry and the teeth are circuits of the body. He’s a pretty famous doctor in Texas. You might be very interested for your practice and your own knowledge of the work that he does as one of my doctors. But he has a whole platform and works with specific dentists and myofunctional therapists. But he bridges Eastern and Western. He really looks at the mouth as the teeth are circuits.

Brent
In his practice, he sees consistently when certain teeth are pulled or there’s bad root canals, that there’s all kinds of problems that happen in the entire system. So Dr. Jerry Tennant, you just might like it for [crosstalk 00:48:37]-

Dr. Michael Robinson
Yes. I’m writing it down. Thank you for that.

Brent
He’s a brilliant, brilliant man.

Dr. Michael Robinson
No, I totally agree that we need to think outside the box. There are people out there that … I’ll definitely look him up.

Brent
You’re going to love him. And then my other question was, have you read that book, Jaws: The Hidden Epidemic on mouth breathing?

Dr. Michael Robinson
No. I’m going to write that one down. I just love this.

Brent
It’s a game changer.

Dr. Michael Robinson
Okay. It’s about breathing?

Brent
It was written by an anthropologist and a dentist about the evolution of the mouth.

Dr. Michael Robinson
Oh yes. Yes. No, I know a little bit about this book.

Brent
It’s an amazing book.

Dr. Michael Robinson
It’s fantastic.

Brent
Yeah. The book is really knowledgeable on breathing. I think what you didn’t say to people is that you get something like 30 or 40% more oxygen into the blood when you breathe through your nose as opposed to your mouth. So when you’re breathing at night for eight hours and you’re breathing through your mouth, you’re depleting yourself of oxygen, which-

Dr. Michael Robinson
A lot of that has to do, it’s connection with the nitric oxide. It’s a wonderful drug that allows oxygen to enter into the bloodstream better. So nasal breathing, it’s a big one. I’ve sent all of my patients and most of my family, well, all of my family some interesting … Watch a YouTube video by Patrick McKeown.

Brent
He’s amazing.

Dr. Michael Robinson
Oh good. I’m glad you’re on-

Brent
Dr. Tennant’s going to do some stuff together. You’ll love Dr. Tennant. You’ll be really thrilled.

Dr. Michael Robinson
Well, good. Well, you look like you’re into health. You look pretty healthy, and your nose looks like it’s working. So that’s good.

Brent
I tape my mouth every night for three years.

Dr. Michael Robinson
See, people. He’s on it. You’re a good man. I bet you have friends of yours that think you’re out to lunch, but who cares? You’re healthier.

Brent
No, just my wife.

Dr. Michael Robinson
But she loves you. This is good.

Brent
She’s like, “What are you saying?”

Dr. Michael Robinson
Well, you can say that you’ve just met a guy tonight that does it every single night. Our seven-year-old, actually Jill is 13 now, but when she was seven years old she was chronically snoring and mouth breathing. It’s very difficult to convince an ear, nose, and throat doctor to take out tonsils and adenoids because they get paid piddly for it. So they really don’t like doing it. They’d rather write you a prescription and give you a pill. I was lucky enough to get her tonsils taken out and adenoids.

Dr. Michael Robinson
But she still was a mouth breather because out of habit. She was comfortable. So we started taping her mouth at night, and it’s black and white, the difference. It sounds crazy, people, but you want this thing working.

Brent
It’s a game changer.

Dr. Michael Robinson
Thanks. That was nice to hear those stories. I’ll definitely look up Dr. Jerry.

David Poole
We have a few more questions. Lena has another question, “Is it true that dental fillings will be replaced by something else soon?”

Dr. Michael Robinson
I don’t know about that. I would rather see people not have these, not need fillings. So do the right thing in the first place. Eat well. Respect hygiene, that kind of stuff. Dental fillings, I don’t know. Right now we’re still using a bonded composite for small and medium-sized fillings. The bonding techniques are fantastic. And then for anything medium to large, it’s porcelain. The mouth is a pretty harsh place. These are the strongest muscles in the body are these two. We’re looking at them, the masseters.

Dr. Michael Robinson
They generate enormous force. So we need to design dentistry to last. Sometimes we have to use better materials, like porcelain or you can use precious metals too. But no one wants to put gold in their mouth anymore. They’re going to look like Jay-Z the rapper or something. I don’t know. I’m not a world authority on dental fillings. Just try and keep my drill out of your mouth would be the best thing, and make sure you’re respecting those other things. For your children, it’s interesting. I fix broken people. That’s what I say.

Dr. Michael Robinson
I’d rather prevent them from being broken. So education to children and to young parents is way more rewarding because it’s very difficult to fix … I look at some of the people on this forum that are aging from 20s to 30s to 60s. It’s hard fixing people when you’re broken. So do the right thing in the beginning.

David Poole
Michael, what would you recommend for at-home healthcare, oral care? How many times should I floss and brush a day and when?

Dr. Michael Robinson
Well, a couple times a day is fine. Flossing, most people don’t do it. Those that do it, don’t do it well. So if you’re going to floss, do it firmly and toughen your gums up. But I’m a bigger fan of water picks. Water picks flush out the toxins better. But diet’s a big key on this too. Your mouth, all it can do is react. So watch what you’re putting in there. But yeah, keep it clean. Just a couple times a day is fine. Watch sugar, white death. Everyone knows that. Our body doesn’t do well with sugar.

David Poole
Three more questions. This is from Timothy, “A few years ago I went to a dentist to get a few crowns and get some drilling done. Now my bite feels messed up and my teeth are migrating. I’ve lost faith in my dentist, and I’m not sure how to find someone who I can trust. Any advice on finding the right person, and will this bite problem be affecting my posture?”

Dr. Michael Robinson
100%. It can. That definitely can. Again, dentists are often, we come out of dental school. I use this analogy. We have a hammer in our hand, so everything looks like a nail. Most dentists just keep that philosophy going on for life. One crown, one tooth, especially crowns, and most teeth that need crowning are the ones at the back because it’s all about forces. So if you’re messing with something in the back of the mouth, you can definitely change the bite, which goes back to this whole jaw joint thing I was talking about.

Dr. Michael Robinson
If you collapse the bite a little bit or compress it, you can then send … Dentists, they’re just doing all they know how to do. So for you, for correcting that, you really want to look for someone that is well-trained in this. All I can say is that if you go on the web and look up LVI and look for a current, not an old one. It’s constantly evolving. That would be one recommendation. I’m north of Toronto. You can fly up and see me. We have so many different ways of evaluating bites nowadays.

Dr. Michael Robinson
It’s not just done with a little piece of paper you stick in the mouth. We have science now. I have a computer pad that you literally can bite into and it shows me the timing of where and when and how much you bite on a tooth. It helps me analyze that. If you’re showing up with symptoms, you may have compression in your joint. It can be a complicated thing. It’s too bad that you’ve ended up like this. But it’s very common. I was guilty of that too when I was practicing to what I thought was the best dentistry I could. But I know I probably created a few nightmares in the problem.

Dr. Michael Robinson
All I can do is continue to learn and look for a person that is doing that kind of learning because it’s no fun to have jaw problems that you might be having right now.

David Poole
Lastly, last question, this is from Leslie and her comment is, “I’m surprised to hear that you recommend removal of the tonsils and adenoids to improve breathing. Don’t these organs serve a natural purpose in filtering viruses as a first defense to germ invasion?”

Dr. Michael Robinson
They do at a very young age. But, again, if you’re respecting all the … Adenoids and tonsils are reactive tissue in the body. If things are going well, they don’t need to react. They don’t need to swell. So key, breathing properly is, in my opinion, probably one of the most important things that we do. It isn’t ideal that you take them out initially. For example, most adenoids and tonsil issues are at a young age. So let’s look to figure out what is the allergen that’s causing this child probably to have swollen tonsils and adenoids?

Dr. Michael Robinson
It’s usually milk. If it’s not milk, it’s an animal. If it’s not an animal, it’s dust. There’s a bunch of things that we can look at to try and eliminate the insult to these tissues. But if you can’t get the tissues under control and get them out of there because you want that child breathing properly so they are healthier. They will learn better. They’ll facially develop better because they’re not mouth breathers. Mouth breathing is a curse for collapse of the craniofacial skeleton and retrusion of the jaw and all the problems that come from it.

Dr. Michael Robinson
So yeah. It’s not ideal that we’re taking them out, but sometimes it is ideal if you can’t get the breathing working. I hope that helps.

David Poole
All right, my friend. That was a great hour. Really appreciate all the insights. Really appreciate what you do. Continue learning. You’ve got 20 more years to practice. Thanks for donating Erica to us. We love and adore her.

Dr. Michael Robinson
Yeah. You got a good one there. Anyway, really nice to talk to you people a little bit tonight. Thank you for your questions and some of the tidbits. I’ve got some more work to do. I wish you all the best in being calm. You got a good tool. It’ll help.

David Poole
Thanks, Michael. Take care, buddy.

Dr. Michael Robinson
Bye, guys.

David Poole
Bye, everybody. Appreciate your time tonight.