Why Western Medicine is Failing with Larry Trivieri

Author and integrative medicine expert, Larry Trivieri Jr. joins David Poole for a show about how to circumvent our failing Western healthcare system.

From ancient knowledge to alternative journeys and technological advances, Larry shares his 30 years of research in how to care for our health and move beyond managing disease.

 

“The journey of a thousand miles starts with the first step. But where? Larry you idiot, get in your chair, turn on the computer and take the first step, just start writing! And I did… By the end of the day I was thinking ‘Wow, I think I can do this!’”

— Larry Trivieri

 

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Larry Trivieri Jr. is a bestselling author and nationally recognized lay authority on holistic, integrative, and non-drug-based healing methods, with more than 30 years of personal experience in exploring techniques for optimal wellness and human transformation.

 



Key Takeaways

[1:00] David welcomes Larry Trivieri and asks him how he came to be an integrative medicine author — sickness forged his path.

 

[4:25] From acupuncture to homeopathy, Larry shares his journey through disbelief towards functional medicine.

 

[8:11] Los Angeles begins its siren’s song! Larry gives in and moves across the country to find that it would mark the start of his career as an author.

 

[10:00] Larry shares his writing process as it occurs while writing with doctors as well as by himself.

 

[16:15] The western healthcare system isn’t really a healthcare system, Larry shares what his perspective is and how.

 

[19:10] Stress is the underlying cause of 95% of illnesses today, Larry shares how NuCalm helps mitigate this and why this is the only device he has ever agreed to write a book about.

 

[21:05] Though we’re all different in terms of nutritional needs, diet is the cornerstone of health. Larry shares one trick to know if you’re on the right track with your food choices, and offers one simple — yet powerful — thing people can do every day to get (and stay) grounded.

 

[26:30] Want a shortcut for diaphragmatic breath? Get yourself some NuCalm!

 

[28:45] Sherry Edwards is a magnificent human, Larry shares a personal anecdote.

 

[34:20] The future of integrative medicine according to Larry is towards its roots. He also shares where to go for information as laymen.

 

[44:32] David thanks Larry for sharing so much of his process and knowledge and signs off until next time.

 

Continue on your journey and until next time, breathe deep, relax, and keep looking forward.

 

Mentioned in this episode

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Books by Larry Trivieri

Sharry Edwards

 

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Full Transcript

David Poole
Good evening, everybody. My name is David Poole. Welcome to the Solace Lifesciences master series. Tonight, we’re featuring a dear friend of mine and my brother Jim’s, Larry Trivieri. We’ve known Larry, geez, I think it has been six or seven years. We’re going to talk tonight about his experience in life as an author. He’s a great author. If you look him up on Amazon you’d be very impressed, how he got into integrated medicine and how he is trying to help people through books of wisdom, inspiration. Larry, let’s start with how you got into becoming a professional writer.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
I got sick. Twice in New York. First year I slept under an air conditioner and the filter hadn’t been changed. It was the first time it was used following summer and I caught chronic bronchitis. I went to every doctor said chronic bronchitis, gave me prescriptions drug, didn’t work. I labored with it for a long time. A friend of mine called me up. She told me about this… I was living in Manhattan at the time, New York City. She told me about this Chinese woman that was in the country of illegally in Chinatown, who was living with her daughter, who was in the country legally and who was a practitioner of acupuncture. She was described to me as a miracle worker. I didn’t believe it, but I was desperate.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Long story short, I went to Chinatown. This woman didn’t speak a word of English, but her daughter did. Did all the translation. She looked at me for a minute and then she put three fingers right here. There’s a pulse that the acupuncturists use. First, no pressure, then the pressure. Jim, you might know about this, I don’t know. But anyway, from that, she proceeded to tell me my whole health history, including the year I had my tonsils out as a child, the year my head was split open by accidentally through a friend. I’m looking at her like siesta daughter, is your mother’s psychic. She translates and the mother kind of barks at me like, no, you idiot. It’s in your pulse. I didn’t know anything about this.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Next thing you know, I’m half dressed, half undressed and I look like a porcupine. She put all these needles in me and then she left. She had her daughter tell me to just lie there and she would come back when the session was over. At first, I thought it was just a waste of money and I looked foolish and blah, blah, blah. All of a sudden this really wonderful warmth started to build up, right around here. I didn’t know anything about the Meridian system. These are energetic pathways that somehow the Chinese figured out about 5,000 years. Anyway, it started to just slowly move down my body and it felt really pleasurable. It came all the way down on one side of my body, then it came all the way back up and then started to move down this side.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
It got to a point just below my belly button, and all of a sudden I felt like I was getting stabbed. It really, really hurt. I knew enough to keep breathing. What it turned out was that was where the underlying cause of my bronchitis was. I had an energetic blockage at the point, the synergy had traveled to. I just kept breathing. All of a sudden it released. I was diffused with… It just felt incredible. My whole body felt incredible. I found out later acupuncture triggers the release of endorphins in the brain, which makes you feel happy and pleasurable. But I just felt incredible. No sooner did that subside, when the woman came in, did my pulse, told the daughter to have me dressed and immediately go home and not stop anywhere. I asked why, she said, because you’re going to cough up a lot of phlegm.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
No sooner did I get home to my apartment, sounds gross, but I literally coughed up a handful of phlegm and my bronchitis went away. I couldn’t believe it. I had been to doctors, all the stuff, and the treatment costs 10 bucks. That got me curious. I started to read about stuff like that. The following year I developed a kidney stone, which was large enough or small enough to pass, but it didn’t pass. Intermittently it started causing pain. Someone told me about this man from Trinidad who was visiting. These people were all from outside of the U.S. This man from Trinidad was visiting his daughter in Brooklyn and he was an homeopath. I knew nothing about homeopathy. I went to see him, very sweet man.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Again, the consultation was very inexpensive and he kept me there for two hours asking me all these questions. None of which seem related to my kidney stuff. He was asking me, was I an active dreamer when I slept, yes. Do you sleep on your side? Yes. What side? Typically, my right side. He kept going like this. I kept going, what does this have to do with my kidney stone and very calmly, very sweetly he said patience Larry, patience. Long story short, two hours passed. He pulls out this huge book. They call it the Materia medica. It was a really ancient copy with onion paper and more like this. He goes, I just want to verify, I think I have your remedy. Yep. Then he reaches into a satchel, pulls out a little brown vile glass vile, a bottle of homeopathic remedies. He says, this is your remedy.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Now I have to tell you how to take it. You’ve never touched the tablets. You’ll deactivate their power. I’m thinking this is all woo. He had me take my first dose right then, and thereby tipping two capsules or two tablets into the top of the cap and then pouring it underneath my tongue. Not chewing it. Well, I need it to dissolve. I’m thinking yeah. Yeah. Okay. Tastes like sugar, this isn’t going do anything. He told me to repeat that process every hour on the hour until I went to bed. The next morning, he said, when I got up to pee, I would pass the stone and it would be painless. I thought it was nonsense again, despite having been cured of bronchitis from acupuncture, but I did what he told me.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Every hour on the hour before I went to bed I took two capsules under my tongue. Didn’t chew them. Let them dissolve. Next morning, I get to pee. All of a sudden, my stream shuts off and then stone pops up and the rest of my urine popped out. I felt this incredible energetic rebalancing. I passed the stone after struggling with it for about two months. Just as he said, it was painless. I called his daughter to thank him and she said, oh, he’d be so happy to hear this but he already flew back to Trinidad last night, blah, blah, blah. Well, now I was really, really curious. From that point forward, I didn’t have any other health issues, but I was really baffled that doctors, mainstream doctors didn’t know about this stuff.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
I started to read about it. I started to check out different therapies. Over the course of about three years, I became pretty well informed about these therapies, how they work, I’d experienced it for myself. In the end of 1990, the beginning of 1991, I started having a whole series of dreams that I was supposed to move to Los Angeles. I resisted at first, but the dreams are very powerful and they kept saying you’re supposed to move to Los Angeles. Finally, I said, okay, I’ll move to Los Angeles. I was a complete fish out of water there. I didn’t even have a car at the time. I’ve lived in Manhattan for 11 years, completely different environment. Well, anyway, long story short, once I got there, by this time I had written articles and things of that nature. I really wasn’t making a living as a writer, but I was writing professionally. I met the guy who ended up becoming my mentor and their friend Burton Goldberg. We created an encyclopedia called alternative medicine, the definitive guide.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
From that, I got to meet literally hundreds of top doctors and other health practitioners from all around the world. I also got to meet their patients. Many of whom were had been given up for dead, particularly the cancer patients that were not alive 10, 15, 20 years later, complete remission. That was my education. It took about two and a half years to create that book. It went on to become a major self published bestseller. It’s sold about 800,000 copies in two editions. From there I had my career. I had met a lot of doctors. I stayed in touch with all these doctors and I added more doctors to my network of friends, and people I consult with. That was from 91 through 94.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Since then, I’ve been writing books ever since. I’ve written, currently working at my 33rd or my 34th book. As David said, I met him and Jim about seven, six, seven years ago. One of the books I wrote with my friend, Dr. Michael Galitzer was “A New Calm” which we’ll be updating since the technology has changed so much since then, and that’s my story.

David Poole
Larry, can you walk us through the writing process? You’re not writing an autobiography, you’re writing about what other experts in the field learn, understand, and want to capture and share, and then their patient experiences. Walk us the process where like you and Dr. Galitzer, when you guys decided to work together on a book.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Well, Michael’s book was easy. I had known Michael for long time. I knew most of the stuff that he wanted to put in the book. Most of the books, I do the actual writing, but a lot of times I co-write them with doctors. What I’ll do is with the doctor, I’ll create a table of contents based on what they want to write about. I tip the creative and then the doctor and I will then flush it out and create a synopsis or an outline of each of the chapters. I have my roadmap. Chapter one is going to cover all these things, chapter two, et cetera. Then I write it. I’ve been doing this now for so long that I have a really, I’m not bragging, but I do have a strong working knowledge about most of these therapies and how they work and how they could be useful for a wide range of health conditions.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
I’ll write each draft of the chapter, I’ll send it to the doctor or whoever else my co-author is, and they’ll review it. Sometimes the last minute, make some additions. Sometimes they’ll say this is great unto the next one. That’s how it typically works. From my own books, that I write by myself, I just rely on that information that I’ve gathered over almost 30 years. I stay current with the research. If I need to call some doctors and I’ll pick their brains and sometimes I’ll fold in their information in the book, if it’s appropriate. That’s what I’ve been doing. I’ve done that as a said for about 30 something books. Some of them I’ve ghostwritten. I don’t have my name on the title. But most of them are either co-written or written by myself.

David Poole
Can you share with us. Larry, the writing process? Do you start with the thesis statement and go? Is it linear for you or do you just write down notes and stack them together?

Larry Trivieri Jr.
No, I don’t write down notes. I typically, once I have a discussion… If I envisioned the project on my own, I usually get the table of contents very quickly. It’s not later at all. It’s just kind of a right branding experience. I just sit down and write down the table of contents. It just comes to me quickly. If I’m doing it with a doctor based on his or her research, then I have a discussion with them first. Then based on what they say, I’ll create a first pass at a table of contents, and then we may have to fine tune. Then once it’s done, as I said, I have an outline of each chapter. I know what needs to go in each chapter. I know what sequence it needs to be in, and then I just write it accordingly.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
You and I talked the other day, David, about writer’s block. I don’t get writer’s block because I’ve been doing it so long. The only time I ever had writer’s block in my life was when it was early in my career. After I’d done the guide, they moved back here to Utica. I was looking at Los Angeles when I worked with curtain and I decided I wanted to continue being a health writer. As soon as I put that intention strongly inside of myself, I got a call from an acquaintance of an acquaintance. He had had lunch that day. He was based in New York City. I’m in upstate New York. He had lunch that day with someone who had become, he’d just been appointed as the senior editor for John Wiley & Sons, which is a very old and very prestigious publishing company.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
They started in London more than 100 years ago. His bailiwick was going to be self-care books, self-help and health books. The guy that called me who had had a meeting with him that day, a lunch meeting, asked him now that you’re the senior editor, what type of book do you want to publish? He reached in his briefcase and he pulled out the guide and he goes, have you seen this book? It’s taken the whole publishing world by storm. It’s self published. It’s sold hundreds of thousands of copies; blah, blah blah. I want to do a book just on the therapist. The guy he’s having lunch with this, I just met the editor and writer of that book. I was put in touch with this guy and long story short, very rapidly, I had a conversation with, and they asked me to create a proposal. I did. He accepted it. He took it to the bean counters. I call them the people that approved the contract. I was awarded a contract.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Now for the first time in my life, after dreaming about it for years, I had a book contract that I was solely responsible for. The first month after I received that contract, I was basically paralyzed with fear because I was overthinking it as I got, there was so much to do and how do you do it? Then I remembered, I don’t know if it’s Lao Tzu but anyway, the journey of a thousand miles starts with the first step. It’s like, Larry you idiot? Get in your chair, turn on a computer, take the first step. Just start writing and I did. By the end of the day, I was like, wow, I think I can do this and I did. Oddly enough, that book ended up becoming, it was never intended to do so, but it’s now used widely as a recommended reference texts in medical schools across the United States and Canada, which amuses me because I’m a college drop off.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
My education was getting to know all these doctors back in the time I was working with [inaudible 001556]. That was my true college education. But anyway, so that’s how my process goes. I typically write in the afternoons. I’ll typically research in the morning if need be. Otherwise, I’ll just catch up on email and do some exercise, whatever else I need to do. Typically, I’ll write four or five hours a day. That’s been my process for years.

David Poole
Thanks for sharing that Larry. What are some of the secrets that you’ve learned that frustrate you when you see what’s happening in the world of medicine and traditional Western medicine? What should we know about in terms of like supplementation or how to beat cancer? Every time I call you, I’ve got duty and ailment or something. I say, and you say, well, geez, Dave. It’s abundantly obvious to me what to do.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Well again, I stand on the shoulders of all these wonderful doctors that I’m friends with and I’ve learned from. What frustrates me the most is that I don’t want to get too conspiratorial, but our healthcare system is not a healthcare system. It’s a drug and symptom management system. It’s controlled by the pharmaceutical industry. It has been for many years. They pretty much control most of the curricula that medical schools teach medical students and blah, blah, blah. For instance, given an example, the average medical school education, if you’re going for an MD in the United States is eight years. During that entire eight year period, I’m not making this up, the average medical student gets 23 total hours of education in nutrition and diet, which is the most foundational aspect of health. Garbage in, garbage out. Good gas, you get good performance.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
They don’t know the first thing, doctors. It’s not their fault; it’s the system’s fault. They’re not trained to know anything about anything that has to do with health. When I talk about our healthcare system, always say, we don’t have them and we haven’t had them. Health is not about getting rid of symptoms, it’s far more than that. It’s basically similar to the experience you have when you have a great NuCalm session. When you’re done with the NuCalm session and if it really works, you’re ready to go. You’re charged up, you’re energized, you’re relaxed, you’re optimistic. Your stress levels are way down. All these things that NuCalm does to you, you can do for yourself as well if you learn how to. We’re not talking about too. That’s my biggest frustration.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Now tying into that without babbling too much, so what do people need to do on their own? Well, I just wrote a whole book about that, which hasn’t come out yet because this COVID nonsense has impacted the publishing industry quite severely, but it’s called No Doctors Required, and it actually features my recommendations plus the recommendations of 15 really top health experts. What you can do from a self-care perspective. First and foremost, you probably know what this is, David. First and foremost, it starts with stress. Stress is the underlying cause of 95% of all illness in our country. This doesn’t come from me. This comes from people like Bruce Linton who’s a performer Stanford University, a PhD. It’s been documented by the NIH. It has been documented by all sorts of different studies.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
People don’t know how to manage their stress. That’s why I was so impressed with NuCalm when I first experienced it. That’s why I wanted to write a book about it. It’s the only book I’ve ever written that is about a specific product. I’ve had offers to do this in the past, but I’ve never put my name on a book just to write a book about a product until I experienced NuCalm. It was based on my experience with it. Way back in the day, the first tracks and different headphone and the CES and all that stuff and the cream. Actually wouldn’t even have the cream at that point. We had the tablets, the [inaudible 004657] tab. As soon as I experienced for the first time, it was like, Holy, I got to do this every day. And so I have.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
I don’t do it every day now, I do it about three or four times a week. It’s made a tremendous difference, not only in terms of my stress levels, but also my physiology, because I don’t have the stress. I don’t really have a lot of stress to begin with, but this is dramatically improved my resilience during stressful times, which we’re all in right now. Obviously because of the lockdowns and all the other stuff that’s going on, and all the fear associated with the virus. I don’t have those fears. I don’t have most of the frustrations that most of the people I personally know are experiencing. Unfortunate, I make my living out of my own so I define myself as an essential worker and so I keep working. That’s where it starts. It starts with stress management and then of course diet, but there’s no cookie cutter formula. I can’t tell you what to eat.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
If I did, I’d be doing it just service because we’re all biochemically and bio energetically unique. For instance, a paleo diet might be perfect for some people, a low fat, high carb diet, as long as it’s healthy carbs and healthy fats might be far more appropriate for another person. You have to determine what’s good for yourself. I can share something right now that you can do to help you figure out if the foods and beverages you’re consuming are good for you. You basically get in a state of relaxation, sitting down, not lying down, sitting down and take a pulse. Count your pulse. Right here in your carotid artery. 20 minutes before you eat.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Just notice what your pulse is. You don’t even have to do it for a minute, just for 20 seconds. See how many beats you feel and then multiply that by three. There’s your pulse per minute. Then eat or drink. 10 minutes after you’re done eating, do the same thing. If your pulse rate has gone up by 20% or more of your original pulse count, you have a sensitivity to that food, which means at that point in time, that food was not necessarily good for you or that beverage. Obviously you can’t do it if you eat a whole meal, you have to do it food by food. If you suspect you have a food sensitivity, everyone talks about food allergies, but 98% of food allergies are actually sensitivities.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
If you suspect you have one, just do that and eat that same food three or four days in a row alone, without anything else. Do the pulse count before and after. If it’s consistently elevated by 20% or more after you eat the food, don’t eat the food. At a certain point, your body may adjust where you’ll be able to reintroduce that food. But for at least a few months, don’t eat that food. Very effective. Hardly anybody knows about it, but it works. A doctor developed it. I’m at a loss to come up with his name right now, but it’s named after a doctor.

David Poole
Larry, can you talk for a minute about grounding, and the work you’ve done with Steven Sinatra, and that whole phenomenon?

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Yeah, that’s another wonderful thing anybody can do. Get outside, barefoot, on the grass, even on concrete, but not tarmac, not paved streets or something like that. But you also want to be careful that you’re doing it in a field or lawn that doesn’t have a lot of electrical wires running underneath it because otherwise you’ll pick up the electricity from the wires. This is all discovered by a man named Clint Ober, O-B-E-R, who then, Dr. Steven Sinatra found out about and did his own double-blind studies with, improved how effective it was for reducing chronic inflammation in the body. There are two things that cause disease and perpetuate disease, chronic stress, chronic inflammation. If you’re chronically stressed, you’re going to be chronically inflamed, even though you may not know it.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
If you can reduce both of those levels, you’ll start to shift back towards health. He brought Ober and started to do testing on people. All you need to do is go outside anywhere from 20 to 60 minutes a day and do it. If you want to do it for a full hour, you can do it in the morning after your lunch break and maybe before you eat dinner, 20 minutes at a time. You just stand barefoot on the ground. The ground has a negative charge. Mother earth has a negative charge. What that does, your feet absorb that negative charge. It reduces the inflammation. It’s more complicated than I can get into now. There’s actually a book called “Earthing”, which is another name for grounding that Dr. Sinatra and Dr. Ober wrote, which I highly recommend. It’s a great book.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
There’s a lot of research validating the effects of grounding that they conducted and other researchers have conducted. Really simple. Doesn’t cost anything. Now, in the winter, obviously Erica and I, David, we live in, where it snows a lot. If you have a basement that has a cement floor, you can actually get most of the same benefits, by just grounding yourself barefoot on the basement. You don’t have to go outside in the cold. Really simple thing. You can do it every single day, and it won’t cost you anything except 20 of the 60 minutes of your daily life.

David Poole
According to Dr. Sinatra, 20 minutes is the minimum kind of exposure time?

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Yeah. Similar to meditation. Like TM is 20 minutes, twice a day can sit on meditation. You can get a lot of benefit if you do things. Even also, another thing I can share is, breathing exercises. With NuCalm, what you’re doing is you’re putting your physiology in your brain chemistry into a parasympathetic dominant state, which is rest and restore and recover as opposed to a sympathetic state, which is fight and flight syndrome. Well NuCalm does it far more powerfully, but you can get similar benefits just by breathing through your diaphragm. Deep breathing. In other words, if you want to find out if you’re breathing properly through your diaphragm, put your hand on your chest, put your hand on your belly and take a breath in and out through your nose and see which hand moves. Ideally, your hand on your belly will move outward far more than the hand on your chest.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Most people are shallow breathers. They breathe through their chest. This hand will move. You don’t want that. You want the belly. If you ever look at traditional martial artists from China or Japan, they’re not into that six pack belly. Most of them have have what’s called a soft belly. It’s almost like a little potbelly. It’s really soft but if you watch them breathe, it’s inflating and exhaling like a balloon, particularly when they’re competing. Well, if you take a deep breath, in and out without pause, it should not be rigorous. It should be very relaxed. Just as if you’re sighing. You do that 10 minutes, 15 minutes, 20 minutes a day, you’ll start to train your physiology to be more in a parasympathetic state. It’s very useful for instance, when you don’t have NuCalm with you. You might be in a meeting and you’re getting stressed out. If you’re going just remember to start taking those deep breaths, you’ll calm your physiology therefore you’ll calm your brain. You’ll be more effective in the meeting, et cetera.

David Poole
You’re telling me after 51 years of working out, my 12 pack is not cool.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
You don’t need it. Soft belly. I have a soft belly.

David Poole
Jim is in good shape. He’s been working the soft belly angle. One of my favorite stories, Larry, of all the stories I’ve heard you tell is your experience of Sherry Edwards. Can you share your experience with her and the whole frequency phenomenon?

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Well, that’s a long story. Sherry’s one of the most interesting and wonderful people I’ve ever met. She was born with the ability to hear sound emanating from people’s bodies. She was also born into a rural area in Ohio, where there’s a lot of superstitious people. When she was about six years old, one of her relatives came to visit. By this time, Sherry thought everybody had this ability just like everybody can see, everyone could talk. Anyway, this relative came in and prior to that, whenever Sherry interacted with anybody, they were healthy. She heard a full spectrum of sound, do re mi fa so la ti do. She heard the whole scale. This relative came in, who Sherry loved. I believe it was either an aunt or a grandmother, but anyway, the woman came in and there was a missing note.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
That’s how Sherry interpreted it as a six-year-old and the woman laughed. She told her parents she’s going to get sick. She’s not right. Then they thought she was nuts. Well, it turned out a few years, or a few months later, she was diagnosed with cancer, the woman, and died. By that time, Sherry’s parents took her seriously. Sherry, if she determinate and have all the notes in there, what she calls the signature sound, she would say, you’re going to get sick as a little girl. They would. [inaudible 003202] these people in our community. I’m laughing, but it was actually kind of sad. They thought she was possessed by the devil. I’m not making this up. She stopped. She basically suppressed her ability. She could still hear, but she never told anybody anything more.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Then when she got to college, she became close to one of her professors who was really intrigued with her, because she’s a bright person. Anyway, he mentored her and at certain point of their mentorship, she felt comfortable enough that maybe he would understand and have an explanation for what her ability was. She shared it. She shared it with him and as soon as she did, he got all excited. He goes, come with me. He took her to the research lab and there just been a study that he had read that had recently been published that proved that the air, our ears emanate sound frequencies. We don’t only hear sound frequencies, our ears emanate them. That’s what she was picking up on. He did a lot of research with her, verified her abilities, and she has the ability vocally, which is amazing.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
She could produce sounds with her voice that are unlike anything I’ve ever heard. They’re absolutely beautiful. I wanted to interview her and meet her. I wrote a book years ago, one of the only two books of mine, it’s out of print, but I’ll send David a link. He can send it to you. I put the entire book online on a WordPress page. Anyway, there’s an interview with her in the book. When I spoke to her initially, she didn’t know me from Adam. We were just on the phone. Would you like to hear your signature sound, Larry? I said, yeah, sure. Not knowing what to expect. She produces for lack of a better term, it was like she was a human synthesizer creating the most beautiful harmonic sound. I was holding the phone like this. I didn’t want it to stop.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
It was incredible. Well, anyway, so we’d become friends and obviously she has this gift, but most people obviously don’t. She’s found a way to reproduce her ability to diagnose things via computer. If you go to her website, it’s sound health.com or something. Sound health portal, sound health portal.com. She’s given away a ton of information for free. You can literally download her programs. You can self-analyze your voice, it’ll pick up. There’s one program, for instance, it can tell you, where are you nutritional deficiencies are that day. What you should consider eating, because for that particular day, you don’t know the frequency for say vitamin C or vitamin D or whatever. It’s just a brilliant woman. I’m trying to get her to meet David and Jim, because I really think there’s a tremendous potential and overlap for what she’s doing in the technology of the Blake’s come up with. She’s truly one of the most remarkable people I’ve ever met. She’s also one of the humblest and her work is definitely worth knowing about.

David Poole
That’s very cool. Thanks for sharing. Larry, where do you think integrative medicine is going? It’s funny how their platform is based on thousands of years of medicine. How far back do you need to go and where can they go in the future with all of the technology advancements without the pollution of –

Larry Trivieri Jr.
If you trace the origins of “integrative medicine,” where do you end up? If you go back in time. You end up with traditional Chinese medicine. You end up with the Ayurvedic system of India. They’re both between 3,000 and 5,000 years old. Now, apparently all those many years ago, and this was always intrigued the heck out of me. There wasn’t that much commerce between India and China and yet they both came up with these systems that in many respects are very similar in acupuncture. You had the acupuncture points in the meridians, and I have a reading of the chakra system. You have, what’s called the naughties. In traditional Chinese medicine, you have Tai chi and Qi gong. Ayurveda have yoga and pranayama exercises, the breathing exercises on and on. But if you go back and I had to do this for the book I told you about that I was paralyzed to write originally.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
There was a chapter in there about traditional Chinese medicine and the chapter about Ayurvedic medicine. I did a lot of research because I love history. Their perspective was really fascinating. This goes back, like I said, 5,000 years. They looked at human beings first and foremost, as systems of energy, bio energetic systems. They both look at health and disease from that perspective. If you’re healthy, you have a vibrant bioenergy system. All systems are go, your energy is flowing freely. If you’re not healthy, you’re deficient in some level of energy. Where I see integrative medicine going is away from biochemistry and back towards bioenergy because as my dear friend, Valerie Han another brilliant woman and scientist, and also mystic that I was privileged to know and write about. She’s also in my book, it’s called Health On the Edge. I’ll send David a link. He can send it all to you so you can read it for free.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
But anyway, Valerie had a saying that chemistry is the downstream event from energy. For instance, why is it that some people do everything right, “from a biochemical perspective.” They have a healthy diet. Everything’s organic. They exercise, they’re taking the proper nutritional supplements that their doctor says they need, and they stay sick. The answer is because they’re dressing their symptoms for biochemical level, but what really needs to be addressed is the bio energetic level. What impacts negatively on bioenergy? Unresolved emotions, past life, past event trauma, something that might’ve happened to you that you always get upset about if you think about, limited beliefs, things of that nature, poor breathing. Breathing is the interface between what I call spirit and the physical.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
What acupuncture does, what certain Ayurvedic practices do, what a lot of new energy medicine techniques do, is they free up that energy and they heal the associated traumas, beliefs, unresolved emotions that science has literally proved resonate at the cellular level. These are called cellular memories. As long as you have those cellar cellular memories, you’re always going to be the effect of them whenever they get triggered or reanimated. That’s where I see it going. Michael Galitzer who you know well, David. Michael is one of the pioneers of conventional MD who moved into integrative medicine. When you go to his office, he has all these different devices, energetic devices, where he can tell you very accurately, okay, this is off. This is off. In ways that even the most sophisticated CT scans, MRI scans, things of that nature cannot do, because they don’t pick up everything that’s going on in the energy field, which is commonly called the aura, which exists.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
It’s been proven scientifically to exist. That’s where I see it going. But the most wonderful thing about it all that makes me the most optimistic about the future is, the more we become aware of this, the more we will gain control over our own physiology and health and wellbeing, because there are so many self-help techniques we can do that will maximize the energy levels of our bio energy systems. Ideally, everything I write, I try to write in a way that empowers the reader to not have to rely on an expert. In other words, sure. You want to try NuCalm. You have to go get new calm, or you have to work with a practitioner. But if you can’t afford it, or if you don’t want to get it, try these breathing exercises, you’ll at least get some benefit that way or try this or try that.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
There’s a lot of information that you absolutely require a competent health practitioner to help you with, but at the same time, there’s even more information on what you can do on your own, because that’s my own personal orientation to life. Self-reliance. Despite knowing all these doctors, I rarely ever go to doctors for anything. I monitor my own wellbeing because my body gives me a signal. I don’t wait until it gives me a real hard signal. It’s like, Oh, okay. What’s that twitch telling him. I know enough now to usually I can figure it out on my own.

David Poole
Larry, you have an advantage because you’ve done 30 years of dedicated research and you’ve got great partners and thought partners. What happens to us? We’re all going to get sick, it’s inevitable. What happens to us –

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Hold on. It’s not inevitable. That’s not another law. That’s an erroneous belief. Get rid of that. Cancel that right out.

David Poole
I was just testing you.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
It’s just as easy to say every day in every way, I’ll get better and better and better. I’m getting better. That’s [inaudible 004254]. You know about him? He was a French physician. He actually told his patients to repeat that out loud. I’m translating obviously, it’s English because he was French, but it’s every day in every way and getting better and better and better. He instructed them to do that before they went to sleep. Get in bed, turn off the lights, don’t fall asleep yet. 10 times. Then when you wake, before you get out of bed, say it again, 10 times. People think it’s nonsense, but it’s an actual affirmation that he proved helped relieve all sorts of serious ailments that his patients had. Every day and every way, I’m getting better and better and better.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
However, to make it work most effectively, you don’t say it the way I just say it. You say it in a very soft voice, almost as a whisper because, if you ever noticed in your room, if you’re in a room or a restaurant and you hear someone whispering what happens to your attention? You’d be having the most fascinating conversation with someone right in front of you. Someone over here is whispering. Most of your attention goes to the whisper. When you whisper to yourself, the same thing happens. Your unconscious really pays attention.

David Poole
Very cool.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Yeah. That’s why… I don’t mean to interrupt you but yeah.

David Poole
No, you’re not interrupting. I was just curious, where do we go as laymen for reliable source to get information about, like you just said, “Hey, I got a soft warning about something happening in my body.” I’m not going to go to my general practitioner for example.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Well, you can read some of my books. A good book, actually was one I wrote with Michael. It’s based on his expertise. Outstanding health is the title of it. You can find that as both e-book and a trade paperback. Sherry Edwards’ site has a lot of stuff you can download or use just through the microphone on your computer. That can give you a lot of information. You can email me. Larry Trivieri, gmail.com, T-R-I-V @gmail.com. If I can help you, I will.

David Poole
I just want to ask one question completely unrelated. What’s the most favorite concert you ever went to?

Larry Trivieri Jr.
Pink Floyd, 1975. Erica Kingston, Canadian football league stadium. Kingston, Ontario. Wish you are here chemo two or three months after the concert. This is in 1975 again. In a football stadium. They had the most clear sounds system I’ve ever experienced. It was [inaudible 004612]. It was incredible. They did all dark side the moon together concert with a film that corresponded with it. This is before anybody was doing videos and stuff like that and it went on from there. In terms of just shear spectacle and upliftment, and just awe, it was Pink Floyd 1975.

David Poole
Nice.

Larry Trivieri Jr.
I’ve seen over a thousand concerts –

David Poole
I know and that’s why I asked. That’s why I asked. Well, thanks Larry, I really appreciate it.